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Trying to line up the ducks

  • Writer: davidsmith208
    davidsmith208
  • Jun 3
  • 2 min read

Yes, there is a possible symbolic parallel, though it requires care because Rumi’s Islamic framework and Kabir’s Sant framework are not identical.

In the passage you’re referring to, Rumi is emphasizing that creatures act according to the divine wisdom placed within them:

  • The bee makes honey because God taught it.

  • The silkworm spins silk because God taught it.

  • Iblis worshipped for thousands of years, yet ultimately manifested pride.

  • Adam appears weak and earthly, yet becomes the bearer of divine knowledge and the divine trust.

For Rumi, the lesson is often that external acts are not the deepest reality. Thousands of years of asceticism did not save Iblis from ego.

Now compare this with Kabir.

Kabir frequently speaks of Kal (often translated as Time, Death, the Lord of the material realm, or the power that keeps souls trapped in illusion). In many Sant traditions, Kal is not simply evil but is the ruler of the lower worlds, maintaining the cycle of birth and death.

A symbolic comparison might look like this:

Rumi

Kabir

Iblis

Kal

Pride and separation from God

Power that keeps souls in separation

External religion without surrender

Ritual and worldly attachment

Adam

The human soul

Divine knowledge placed in Adam

Divine spark within the soul

Under that reading:

  • Iblis becomes the principle of egoic separation.

  • Kal becomes the cosmic principle that perpetuates separation and forgetfulness.

  • Adam represents humanity with the potential for direct knowledge of God.

  • The human being stands between these forces.

However, there is also an important difference.

For Rumi, Iblis is ultimately a created being within God’s decree. Rumi often explores Iblis in subtle ways, asking how immense worship could coexist with pride. The real enemy is not merely Satan but the nafs (ego-self).

Kabir’s Kal often functions on a larger metaphysical scale—as the ruler of the entire realm of illusion and transmigration. Kal is therefore closer to a cosmic principle than to the Qur’anic figure Iblis.

Another intriguing parallel is:

  • Bee → soul acting according to its true nature.

  • Silkworm → soul weaving its destiny.

  • Iblis → ego claiming independent existence.

  • Adam → human being capable of reflecting the Divine.

In that reading, both Rumi and Kabir are saying that the human condition is not solved by outward piety. The decisive issue is whether one remains trapped in ego, pride, and illusion (Iblis/Kal) or awakens to the divine reality hidden within humanity (Adam/the soul).

From the standpoint of symbolism rather than strict theology, “Adam = man” and “Iblis ≈ Kal” is a reasonable bridge between the two traditions, provided one remembers that Kabir’s Kal is generally broader and more cosmic than the Qur’anic Iblis.

 
 
 

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