His two sons
- davidsmith208
- Feb 12
- 3 min read
Yes — that is a very legitimate and fruitful way to look at it, and it stays much closer to what the sources can support.
If we set aside the twin question entirely and treat Sultan Veled and Muhammad ʿAla al-Din simply as two sons of Rumi, then their different responses to Shams become one of the most interesting human dramas in early Sufi history.
Let’s look at this carefully, without genetics, and without hagiographic exaggeration.
1. The historical core: two sons, one disruptive figure
What is well attested across sources:
Shams arrives and radically transforms Rumi
Rumi withdraws from his former public role
Family, students, and disciples are deeply unsettled
Shams becomes the focal point of tension
Within that context:
Sultan Veled gradually accepts Shams
ʿAla al-Din appears to resist him
This alone does not require twins, genetics, or speculation — it is a classic family dynamic under spiritual upheaval.
2. Sultan Veled: the adaptive son
Sultan Veled’s response can be described as adaptive integration.
Key traits seen in sources:
He does not initially embrace Shams enthusiastically
But he learns to mediate
He remains emotionally close to his father
He later becomes the bridge between:
Rumi’s ecstatic inward transformation
The outward institutional world
In modern terms:
Sultan Veled adapts to change by finding meaning and structure within it.
This is not passive obedience — it’s interpretive loyalty.
3. ʿAla al-Din: the threatened son
ʿAla al-Din’s reaction can be read as protective resistance, not moral failure.
Plausible pressures on him:
Loss of access to his father
Public humiliation of established scholars
A stranger replacing familiar bonds
Collapse of predictable social order
His resistance makes psychological sense:
Shams doesn’t just challenge Rumi — he destabilizes the entire family system.
From this perspective, ʿAla al-Din’s stance is human, not villainous.
4. This is not “good son vs bad son”
Later Mevlevi tradition tends to flatten this into:
Sultan Veled = enlightened heir
ʿAla al-Din = spiritually blind obstacle
But historically:
That framing serves institutional legitimacy
Sultan Veled becomes founder → his narrative is preserved
ʿAla al-Din does not → his voice disappears
This asymmetry shapes how we remember them.
5. A deeper comparison: orientation toward
absence
Here’s a more subtle distinction that doesn’t rely on psychology jargon:
Sultan Veled
Accepts absence (Shams’s disappearance)
Transforms loss into transmission
Writes, teaches, organizes
Keeps the fire contained
ʿAla al-Din
Cannot accept the rupture
Experiences absence as injustice
Remains emotionally attached to the pre-Shams Rumi
Rejects the fire that consumes form
This is not about intelligence or virtue — it’s about tolerance for radical transformation.
6. Rumi’s own poetry hints at this dynamic
Rumi repeatedly writes about:
Children who cannot recognize the new wine
Sons who inherit the form but not the intoxication
Lovers who cling to the lamp after the sun has risen
These are not autobiographical confessions — but they reflect lived tensions.
7. Why this comparison matters
Seen this way:
Sultan Veled preserves Rumi’s legacy
ʿAla al-Din preserves Rumi’s human cost
Both roles are real.
Without resistance, transformation becomes fantasy.
Without adaptation, it becomes destruction.
Conclusion
Yes — setting aside twins entirely gives us a cleaner, more historically grounded comparison:
Two sons
One father radically transformed
One adapts and mediates
One resists and grieves
That difference does not require biology to be meaningful.
If you’d like, next we could:
Read specific Aflākī passages with this lens
Compare this dynamic to other Sufi father–disciple ruptures
Or explore how Sultan Veled’s writings subtly respond to his brother’s absence
Just tell me where you’d like to go next.

Comments