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The Cat and the Mouse

  • Writer: davidsmith208
    davidsmith208
  • 2 days ago
  • 3 min read

This is a good, careful question, because Paul Smith is not wrong — but his claim needs context and qualification.


Let me lay this out in three layers:


  1. Who Obeyd Zakani really was

  2. Whether his mystical ghazals & rubaʿis exist — and in what sense they are “profound”

  3. Where we actually find (capture) those poems today






1️⃣ Who was

Obeyd Zakani

(1300–1371)?



Obeyd Zakani is best known for:


  • biting satire

  • social criticism

  • obscene parody

  • intellectual irony



Especially:


  • Mush‑o‑Gorbeh (The Cat and the Mouse) — his famous allegorical satire



He lived in the same Persianate world as:


  • Rumi’s immediate successors

  • Hafez (roughly contemporaneous)

  • A culture saturated with Sufi language



Crucially:


Obeyd knew Sufi discourse intimately — and often mocked it — but could also write inside it with technical mastery.





2️⃣ Are his mystical ghazals & rubaʿis “among the most profound”?




Short answer:



✔ Yes, some are very strong

✖ No, he is not primarily a mystical poet like Rumi or Hafez


Paul Smith’s statement reflects a minority but defensible scholarly view:


Obeyd’s serious ghazals and rubaʿis — when stripped of satire — show compressed, bitter, existential mysticism, closer to skeptical Sufism.



What kind of mysticism?



Not ecstatic or luminous (Rumi)

Not lush or paradoxical (Hafez)


Instead:


  • ironic

  • disenchanted

  • intellectually sharp

  • post-illusion mysticism



Think:


“After belief, after hypocrisy, after institutions — what remains?”


That is very 14th-century.





3️⃣ What poems is Paul Smith likely referring to?




Important point:



There is no single canonical list labeled “Obeyd’s mystical ghazals.”


Rather, they are:


  • scattered across manuscripts

  • embedded in mixed collections

  • often overshadowed by his satire




📜 Genres where they appear




✔ Ghazals (غزلیات)


Some ghazals attributed to Obeyd:


  • use classical Sufi imagery (wine, beloved, annihilation)

  • but twist it toward irony or despair

  • sometimes sound closer to anti-mysticism that circles back into truth



Example themes (paraphrased, not literal):


  • hypocrisy of ascetics

  • emptiness of forms

  • exhaustion of desire

  • love without consolation



These are likely what Smith calls “profound.”



✔ Rubaʿis (رباعیات)


This is where Obeyd shines philosophically.


His quatrains often resemble:


  • Omar Khayyam’s skepticism

  • but with sharper social intelligence

  • and a darker metaphysical edge



Many rubaʿis express:


  • impermanence

  • futility of dogma

  • loneliness before God

  • truth without ornament



These are the strongest candidates for Smith’s claim.





4️⃣ Where do we “capture” these poems today?




📚 Primary Persian Sources



There is no single universally accepted critical edition of Obeyd’s mystical poems.


They are found in:


  • Collected works (Kulliyāt-e ʿObeyd-e Zākānī)


    • Persian editions published in Iran (20th century)

    • Often mix satire, ghazals, rubaʿis, prose


  • Manuscript anthologies


    • Persian poetic majmūʿas

    • Libraries in Iran, Turkey, Central Asia

    • Attribution sometimes uncertain





📖 Modern Translations & Studies



Paul Smith himself:


  • translates some ghazals and rubaʿis

  • selects those with mystical or philosophical depth

  • curates, rather than exhaustively edits



This is key:


Smith’s claim is partly evaluative, not purely textual.





5️⃣ Scholarly Caution (Important)



Most academic Persianists would say:


  • Obeyd is not primarily a mystical poet

  • His greatness lies in satire

  • His mystical poems are:


    • fewer

    • uneven

    • sometimes deliberately ambiguous




However:


  • When serious, they are extremely compressed and sharp

  • They reflect a late-medieval Persian spiritual crisis

  • They resonate strongly with modern readers



That’s why Smith values them.





6️⃣ How to Read Obeyd Mystically (Correctly)



Do not read him expecting:


  • Rumi’s ecstasy

  • Hafez’s radiance



Read him as:


a poet who has seen through systems —

including mystical systems —

and still speaks truth.


That is his profundity.





🧭 Summary



  • ✔ Obeyd Zakani did write serious ghazals and rubaʿis

  • ✔ Some are philosophically and spiritually profound

  • ✖ They are not central or abundant

  • 📍 They are scattered across collections

  • 📖 Paul Smith selects and elevates them interpretively





If you want, next we can:


  • Look at one or two specific ghazals or rubaʿis attributed to Obeyd and analyze them line-by-line

  • Compare Obeyd’s mystical skepticism with Omar Khayyam vs Hafez

  • Examine whether Obeyd’s mysticism is genuine, ironic, or both



Just tell me which direction you want to go.

 
 
 

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